It is a bit confusing as to whether people log the low or the regular start as mentioned in the book. I took the low and almost the flash but missed the jug by a finger width. Second try used a hold out right on the lip to increase the probability. Seems like the consensus is 5 points so I'll take it at that. I can never tell these things anyway. Seemed easy to me but also in my style. For what it is worth I thought it was much easier than 38 Special.