This climb was pretty fun Those first few crimps are sick!!! The top out and descent are kinda awkward. Note: I wanted to try to climb it without using the big foot ledge but it seems really contrived. Even trying to pull on with a heel around the right side of the prow doesn't really make sense since every time i pulled off the ground i would just swing into the foot ledge. Seems its in and its very soft for V4. Would love to hear some other people's opinions on this though. Get on it its goooood!!